Question by Sassy Shibas- sea kittens = yum!: Is there such thing as an industrial strength dog crate?
I posted a question a couple of weeks ago asking what crate would be best for my separation anxiety ridden dog who BENT HER WAY out of her metal crate while I was at work. The question specifically pertained to durable plastic crates (like the airline approved ones) but now wonder whether that would be the best way to contain her. Some people mentioned an "industrial strength crate", but there's no link even close to it when I Google it. She got out of those black metal ones (for a 50 pound dog, she is surprisingly strong when she wants something done). Is there one even more harcore than that?
I'm getting desperate. She is currently tethered to the couch leg while I find a solution for the poor thing, but I do get tired of cleaning up after she soils the carpet in her anxious state.
I need something that will keep her (and my carpets!) safe from harm. It needs to be, essentially, indestructible. Is there such a crate? Does a miracle like that exist?
Oregano - OUCH! That price is painful. Of course, if that's all that will work, that's all that will work...
Isis - How lucky are YOU? Wish people would leave that crap lying around our roads, ha.
hooptidoo2 - She is spayed, and about 1.5 years of age. I got her about 5 months ago from a local no kill shelter, so have no idea of her past. She is a hound mix.
The "gradually building up time apart" is a good thought and I did that with her the first couple of months - but she never had an issue with 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, even an hour...she almost seems to instinctively realize when she's being tethered (or crated, as it used to be) for 30 minutes or 6-8 hours. It's eerie. It's a great idea and I continue to work in that way, but she seems to recognize that I'm coming back shortly. Or maybe she just doesn't have enough time to do the damage she does when left for longer, I don't know.
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Answer by Mr. Lizard
My brother found one on eBay. Try searching in zoology supplies. It has heavier guage plastic and a very solid door and latch. I think it is designed for transporting monkeys because the shape is more vertical than the typical dog carrier. It works perfectly for containing my hyperactive nephew.
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Yes, there are super-heavy duty crates available, but they aren’t cheap. http://www.elitek9.com/crates/index.htm
Also: http://www.allk-9.com/police-dog-129/crates-and-kennels-195/kalispel-aluminum-dog-crates-383.html?zenid=c62ed8ee101d83b96648ca5ba7cbe6e0
http://leerburg.com/crate.htm
http://www.kustomkrates.com/products.shtml
If you search for Military dog crates, you’ll find a few more sources.
Gorilla Tough® Classic Square Back Cage
This cage will stand up to the wear and tear it receives from exertive dogs; yet it is the perfect choice for housebreaking a puppy. Heavy-duty, 6-gauge welded steel wire, closely spaced at 1-1/4 inches apart, gives this cage its extra strength and stability. Front access door with cam lock is easy on your fingers but will check your dog in his efforts to escape.
HEAVY DUTY FOLDING PLASTIC DOG CRATES
these are the toughest I have found.
I think your best bet would be to get one and reinforce it yourself the best you can. Dog crates are hard to come by and the good ones even harder. Try getting a bigger crate so she doesn’t have as much leverage to push at the sides.
Is something like what Oregano suggested is out of your price range you could also try reinforcing your current crate with some heavy duty zip ties at all the corners and the door, it’s worked for me in the past.
You might also consider doing an indoor tether system which is what I am currently using on my 170lb. Newfoundland. I took an eye bolt and sank it directly into my strongest support stud in the house right next to the floor and them hooked up a 4 foot length of strong chain covered in plastic to it. He gets a 4′ radius that’s all his which is more room than any crate can offer and he’s calmer because he’s not caged and I don’t have to worry about him tearing up anything while I’m gone.
Good Luck!
i have one. i found it on the side of the road a few years ago. it’s a very heavy steel gauge. i use it for my 100 lb malamute x. it’s for the x tra large (dane size).
i’ve seen them in catalogues for grooming businesses.
BTW: have you ever tried Mellow Mutts treats? they’re made by DOGSWELL.
100% chicken breast with lavender and hops. you’d need to give her 4 to 6 a day. i give them to my little Aussie.
well i would get something like a http://www.digitpet.com/product_group.cfm?cid=1001,2006,3016&pid=12037M
and sucure it to the floor and get a (ROOF)
http://www.digitpet.com/product_group.cfm?cid=1001,2006,3022&PID=12050
and then reenforce it to a cornor so only two walls are facing foward
this probably is not in you budget or it might be
well you could get an addition to you house or just use an empty room maybe an office the is never used or just a computer that can be relocated
any way the point is to have a doggy room, paint the room with paint that is garenteed not to peel from powerful digging dog paws and get a real wood door not a fake hollow one
put food water toys beds puppy training pad (if not house trained) cover all outlets or in other words make a doggy room you dog can stay in and enjoy when you are not home
maybe make a hideout for her give her stuff to chew on and distroy to keep from distroying door and possibly walls also have a surface that can not be chewed but yet is not title, linolium, or hardware because these surfaces freak some dogs out alsoput the old carpet the was allready chewed in or extra carpet uuummm make sure this room wont be to cold or too hot for you dog
hope i helped
Hello,
It sounds like you have a serious problem. Separation anxiety can be difficult for the pup and the owners possessions.
I would not recommend the type that are approved by the airlines. They offer no view of things and I personally had a dog that injured herself on one. I do have a few questions is the dog spade or neutered? and how old is it? Those answers do make a difference in what I would recommend you trying. I have a 12 lbs dog who chewed threw a bathroom door for the same reason. The inappropriate accidents were easier to clean up but the door sure took a beating. Some times it is not the size of the pup that matters it is the level of anxiety the pup has. without any more information I would suggest you try….
Several times a day go into another room start with 5 min and work your way up in time from there. always make it after a exercise time (walk, play etc) so there is lots of praise and encouragement prior to the 5 min separation . If the pup is good give a treat (only use the treat for this activity or the pup will get confused) offer the treat and lots of verbal praise in a tone that your pup likes also try some physical communication with her. Dogs have lots of nerve ending on their necks and on the sides of her face. They usually like the feeling… increase time away from the pup giving reward everytime the pup is successful until you reach say 15 to 20 min. Then change by going out side 5 then 10 then etc. building up the time of course. This does not mean that the pup will be successful every time but when the pup is give the big drama praise. Dogs generally want to please the master and the pup is communicating to you that it is unsure if you are going to return so it tears up stuff and soils things.. Until you have successfully communicated to the pup that you are going to return no matter what the time frame is you are still going to have trouble . Also put out stuff it can get into… I know non destructible toys for my small dog was a joke. This dog tore up anything . I ended up trying items that had holes in it so I could put pieces of favorite treat and peanut butter etc in it to give her something to do for the 5 min I was a way until she learned that idea that I would return.. Strangely enough it worked and she got threw it. Hope the advice helps…. I now have had this dog for 16 years and she is good as gold. I would not have traded her for nothing even with her having a rough time for a while.
Good Luck…….