Question by AlisN1dland: New Min Pin Owner Pulling Hair Out (not dog's: her own)?
I've had 8 Dobermans in my life: all obedience champions, certified utility dogs, therapy dogs and even a few who did agility: all of which I trained completely on my own. Now I'm in an apartment and my well-meaning daughter-in-law attempted to alleviate my dogless-depression by getting me an 8-month Min Pin. Who, from what I can tell, is crazed. Not that she isn't an adorable dog - she's cute as a little bug. I have had her for about a month now and been working diligently to socialize her: she love the dog park and also has a large fenced in area for exercise everyday: not that she ever brings the ball back, but at least she runs for it 
This is what we have managed to accomplish: "crate" (she's fed in it and goes in an out during the day at will. But if left in it when I'm gone she screams her head off non-stop and my neighbors are at their wits end. House-breaking she is having very little problem with. Some accidents, but she's young. Heel: depends on what else is going on. This I think I can probably cope with eventually. "Sit": she'll do it but I have to hold her hind end down to put her food down. The jumping / counter surfing is driving me insane. I don't want to step on her tiny toes. I've tried just putting my hand out flat and letting her run into it on her own, but that doesn't seem to bother her in the least. "NO" is just not in her vocabulary: and doesn't show any sign of being added any time soon. This dog is obviously going to be a far different kettle of fish than my Dobes: I know that Min Pins have a great deal of terrier in them and I have NO experience with terrier behavior. HELP!!!1
Liz: please read post. Thanks so much.
Oh - and Liz? yes: terriers are smart. but they are also exceedingly stubborn. Which is why they're often hard to train.
SgtXcom - you know, I have to admit I have thought about it. Compared to this little 19-pound whirlwind, 5 Dobermans would make for a calmer existence. But I have never, ever in my life surrendered or sold a dog. I just have to readjust my attitude and my methods. Before I'm completely bald
AngelWolf 13 - you know, I was thinking about that: but I wasn't sure I might be making the situation even worse. Do you think another Min Pin might help the situation? A male, maybe a little older? Course, if it DOESN'T work, I'll have to take a rock and kill myself Or I was thinking about getting her a cat: a really, really BIG cat. Like a 25 pound cat
Best answer:
Answer by Liz
terriers are definitly the hardest dog to train because they are so smart. (i have one)
why would you get one if you didnt know anything about the breed?
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Yeah they are definitely much different than Dobes. I’ve got one myself and he is an amazing dog. Unfortunately min pins are more terrier than Doberman like you said, so I don’t know how to help you with this one. Maybe find her a new home and get another Doberman! =D
Congrats on your Gift! lol…Not meaning to laugh, as I fully understand your angst! I know you have so much experience, but how about enrolling her into obedience class? This will be a long term option. In the meantime, the neighbors are going crazy…How about day boarding in a dog sitters, or kennel? At least she will not be able to annoy the residents.
My thought process is this: Did you ever think that this was meant to be? Now that you are dog less, you can devote your time to training this dog for the first time in her life. Quite the challenge…
I would tether her to you at all times, forcing her to follow. Creates a strong bond…being on the other end of the lead, you can correct her from hopping. Limit her area, use the crate, and while training, let her attempt to jump, climb, etc. Use the lead for corrections. Put her into a sit…offer treat. Over and Over….she will learn, at 8 months, you should have her trained to be civil in two months.
So, day boarding, dog sitter, dog walker, radio on, Kong type toy for when she is alone, obed. school, OR, get her a playmate! lol. not that you need another dog, but it may cut down on the lonliness.
I have fostered a couple of min-pins, and they dont seem very terrier like to me.
Terriers are determined and independent, but not giddy (at least mine have not been.)
The Min-pins I have known are giddy and bouncy – cute and sweet, but a little on the hyper side.
Certainly not like Dobermans
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With my small dogs, I often use finger poke to the shoulder as correction. You might try that with her…..it works well with mine.
Have you considered some kind of electronic device to correct her for screaming when you are gone? I am thinking of the ultrasonic kind that puts out a sound in response to barking. I have a hand held model that I sometimes use when my dogs get overexcited and start barking their heads off – especially my rat terrier, who has a shriek that could shatter glass.
Min Pins are definately a harder dog to train as they are so hyper and stubborn. However it is not impossible as I had my min pin trained so well it got best in the class at puppy school. I reccommend taking your dog to puppy school. The instructors will teach you how to train your dog to listen to you when there is alot of commotion going on (as there are other dogs there). Another thing is you should be taking your min pin for walks every day, a fenced yard is not enough. They need to be learn to heel. As for feeding you should have an area that has an invisible border that she is not allowed into until you say “ok”. You have to be very firm with min pins and make sure they know who is boss. Just keep on working on it and don’t give up. If you have any other questions on behaviour and training tips for min pins feel free to e-mail me.:)
My min-pin is my very first dog so. Cute as a button and loving is absolutely true… I didn’t know what to expect. I guess I got lucky in the training arena because she turned out to be pretty easy to train. The key I found out (thanks to Nancy’s) is you must dominate. Since you’ve had dogs before, that may be old information. Mine was a non-socialized older dog and afraid of everything. I mistakenly though when she went freaky-scared, I should pick her up and comfort her… after I found out that was the wrong response, a little hand on the hips and stern ‘NO’ seemed to do the trick.
Hope that helps, Gayle
Have patience. Min pins are not easy to train, but once they are trained, they are fantastic dogs. I show my minpins in both the breed ring, and in agility. My older male took a long time to train, but went on to earn to Championship titles in agility, and earned high in standard for his division at nationals this year. I have to admit, I did get a sheltie for agility. She keeps me sane while training my minpins. They probably take on average, twice as long to be ready to show. I have a 3 yr old that is still very distracted at trials, but is now finally great in class. He is in a competition obedience class, that is helping greatly. I on occasion have one that is easier, but for the most part, they can take a long time. All I can say is stick with it. It sounds like you have the experience, you just need the patience and some time. Keep in mind, even when fully, and well trained. Now and then, they will just blow you off on something, to remind you they can….LOL! Have a sense of humor. As far as the crate. Maybe try a kong with frozen peanut butter or sweet potatoe in it. Just to give her something to do. Live her in for short periods of time at first, until she gets used to it. All of my minpins are crate trained, and all are quiet in their crates. And I have 9! Good luck